In a recent episode of the Influence Continuum, I had the privilege of a second opportunity to talk with Michelle Dowd, a journalism professor and author of Forager: Field Notes on Surviving a Family Cult. I watched Michelle’s three-and-a-half-hour interview on Joe Rogan’s podcast. Joe was utterly fascinated by Dowd’s cult experience and asked many questions, including what a cult is. Michelle mentioned me and my BITE ModelTM. Indeed, I was on Joe Rogan’s show in 2015, and he remembered me. I was astounded to hear Joe say that he thought anyone who was on social media all the time had a mental illness.  

Dowd’s story of being raised in an Apocalyptic survivalist cult on a mountain is a powerful testament to the resilience of the human spirit. It offers valuable insights into overcoming the psychological grip of cults. This post explores key themes from her experiences and offers practical advice for recovery and empowerment. 

Michelle Dowd’s upbringing was far from typical. Raised in an apocalyptic cult on a mountain in the Angeles National Forest, Dowd learned to navigate by the stars, forage for edible plants, and care for the earth. These survival skills were not just physical; they became metaphorical tools for her eventual escape and healing. Dowd’s memoir, Forager, details her journey out of poverty and illness, drawing on the gifts of the wilderness to find her way. 

Dowd shared how she found solace and strength in nature, which was crucial to her recovery. This connection to the natural world was grounding, helping her rebuild her identity and trust in herself. 

Critical thinking is a cornerstone of surviving and breaking free from undue influence. Now a journalism professor, Dowd teaches critical thinking and poetry at Chaffey College and the California Institutions for Men and Women in Chino. She has witnessed firsthand how developing critical thinking skills can empower individuals to question and ultimately reject the controlling narratives imposed by cults. 

In our discussion, we explored the Influence ContinuumTM, a framework for understanding the spectrum of influence from ethical to unethical. Dowd’s teaching methods, fostering open dialogue and encouraging personal expression, help students develop a robust internal locus of control. This approach aligns with the belief that individuals should be the masters of their own minds. 

Dowd’s experience on Joe Rogan’s podcast brought her story to a broader audience, and she received feedback from many women who related to her struggles. These women, often in controlling or abusive relationships, found hope in Dowd’s journey. By sharing her story publicly, Dowd has helped de-stigmatize the experience of being in a cult and has shown that recovery and a fulfilling life are possible. 

One poignant example Dowd shared was teaching poetry in a men’s prison. Initially, the incarcerated men were reluctant to express themselves, fearing vulnerability. However, Dowd facilitated a powerful transformation through patience and creating a safe space. The men began to share their poetry, breaking down barriers and finding a new form of expression. This experience underscores the importance of safe, supportive environments for healing and growth. 

Dowd advocates for embracing creativity as a means of healing and empowerment. She described how practices like yoga and creative writing can help individuals reconnect with their bodies and emotions. Teaching yoga, Dowd emphasizes the importance of consent and safe touch, often denied in high-control environments. These practices help individuals reclaim their bodies and foster a sense of autonomy. 

I also highlighted the benefits of creativity, mentioning the book Your Brain on Art, which discusses the positive impact of art and music on brain health. Engaging in creative activities can help former cult members rebuild their identities and find joy and purpose. 

Dowd and I stressed the importance of challenging controlling narratives, whether from cults, authoritarian regimes, or societal norms. Dowd’s work in education and her public speaking engagements aim to empower individuals to think critically and question the information presented. 

Our conversation was infused with hope and empowerment. Dowd’s journey from a restrictive cult to a successful academic and author is a testament to the human capacity for resilience and growth. By sharing her story and encouraging others to do the same, Dowd provides a roadmap for recovery and self-discovery. 

Michelle Dowd’s story is a powerful reminder that, no matter the circumstances, it is possible to reclaim one’s identity and live a fulfilling life. We can all find freedom and empowerment through critical thinking, creativity, and community. 

For those interested in further exploring these topics, here are some valuable resources: 

  • Forager: Field Notes on Surviving a Family Cult: Michelle Dowd’s memoir detailing her life in and escape from an apocalyptic cult. 
  • Your Brain on Art: A book that explores the positive impact of art and music on brain health. 
  • Steven Hassan’s Influence Continuum Podcast: Episodes that delve into mind control mechanisms and recovery from undue influence. 
  • Chaffey College: Where Michelle Dowd teaches critical thinking and poetry. 
  • Michelle’s recent appearance on Joe Rogan’s podcast