In a revealing dialogue, Denise Brennan, a former high-ranking member of Scientology as Larry Brennan, sheds light on the intricacies and inner workings of the organization alongside cult expert Dr. Steven Hassan. This conversation, which took place in February of 2013, delves into the origins, practices, and controversial leadership under David Miscavige, offering an unprecedented glimpse into the enigmatic world of Scientology.  A proud transgender woman who transitioned later in life, she passed away in August of 2014 and is sorely missed by all who knew her.

Denise Brennan’s involvement in Scientology’s legal department, particularly the Guardians Office (now known as OSA), positioned her at the core of the organization’s legal and corporate strategies. Under direct orders of Hubbard, Brennan outlined her role in creating “corporate shell games” designed to protect Scientology’s assets from legal actions and government scrutiny, showcasing the organization’s complex structure to safeguard its financial interests and maintain control. 

Brennan’s interactions with Scientology’s founder, L. Ron Hubbard, and his successor, David Miscavige, highlight these leaders’ profound influence on the organization’s direction and practices. Hubbard’s orders, relayed through Miscavige, dictated significant restructuring and policy implementation, reflecting their authoritative control over the organization’s operations. 

A pivotal aspect of Brennan’s revelations is the strategic transformation of Scientology into a recognized religion. This maneuver, aimed at legal and financial benefits, involved meticulous rebranding efforts, including promoting religious ceremonies and attire. Brennan’s account underscores the calculated nature of this transformation, emphasizing its role in Scientology’s survival and expansion. 

The conversation takes a personal turn as Brennan shares the emotional and psychological toll of her involvement in Scientology. From witnessing Miscavige’s physical abuse of members to experiencing the organization’s oppressive practices firsthand, Brennan’s narrative is a harrowing account of the dark side of Scientology. Her journey towards leaving the organization and embracing her true identity as a transgender woman illuminates the struggle for freedom and authenticity faced by many former members. 

Dr. Steven Hassan and Denise Brennan discuss the importance of raising awareness about Scientology’s practices and supporting those affected by its influence. By sharing personal stories and leveraging the growing body of literature critiquing Scientology, they advocate for understanding, healing, and freedom from the organization’s grasp. 

Denise Brennan’s candid discussion with Dr. Steven Hassan offers a rare and insightful look into Scientology, challenging the organization’s public facade and revealing the complexities of its operations, leadership, and impact on individuals. As more stories like Brennan’s come to light, the path toward healing and justice for former members becomes increasingly apparent, highlighting the resilience of the human spirit in the face of adversity. Please see the book Brennan put together in the first link in the Resource center below.


The Miscavige Legal Statements

Larry Brennan, Nancy Many and Steven Hassan Discuss Scientology (note: Larry Brennan was Denise’s pre-transition name)

Denise Brennan’s obituary in Tony Ortega’s Underground Bunker